What is CCPs opinion on alliances actively interfering with the training of other alliances on the test server? We're having Hydra Reloaded actively locate and scan the wormholes we're trying to run practices in.

And then it matters ofcourse who does the spying / interfering and who get's spied upon / interfered with.

The latests rulings make very clear that there are differences between the teams and some get tackled / ignored harder than others.

Ok, let's get banned then for breaking ToS 1.

You Sir,break rules whenever it pleases you. You post conversations or snipets of a conversation between player and GM and keep the thread locked making the whole discussion one sided. YOUR side ofcourse being the only one that matters.

The blatant favouritism is shown by the fact that Hydra and Outbreak are kicked from ATX whereas PL can continue. The situation might have a different taste to it but we still can speak about A and B teams, Yet Hydra and Outbreak get stomped harder. How befitting to call in the old cows from the well which is called AT9.
Not one of you has even bothered to communicate after even several mails / petitions of them and just assumed and took action. Because it was easier.

So go ahead, slap me down with your rules and ban me because I am implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.

That you are narrowminded and vindictive you already proved. No worries to look worse then you already do. I also know there is no chance to petition this with IA because conveniently enough IA has nothing to do with forum moderation.

Hey Sreegs, who checks the Alliance Tournament email inbox? So we know who ignored all our emails to it.

So let's get this straight. Someone did something not allowed and as a result you are suddenly allowed to do it. Even though if a player does it ofcourse he get's burned. Because let's face it. We are all equal, just that some are more equal.
It's so darn convenient and pleasant to hide behind the Dev ticker now so you can huff and puff however you want and nobody can do a thing about it.
Do you put your thumbs in your ears after each post and wiggle your fingers while singing nana nana na na?



If your explenation would have been satisfying then there wouldn't have been a discussion in the first place.
You screwed up and that ends the discussion.
Great move.



And yet again you assume things without verifying them.
-You assume I don't imply anything yet a major part of the readers here can see exactly what I imply.
-You assume I am aware of what should and shouldn't exsist on these forums. Seeing you don't even seem to know it then how should a humble player like me be aware of it.
-You assume I haven't contacted IA in the passt already yet IA already told me they mainly wotk on Dev and GM behaviour ingame and that for forum moderation I should contact the same people I am petitioning about.

And am not allowed to express my personal opinion in thread which have any sort of impact on me? Odd.....
I think I need a new definition as what forums are.
Are you this harsh and forthcomming towards people like Andski aswel?

We both know that this is not true. Petition was written by OB member without caring much about wording, while emails were far more detailed and described what we were doing.

Look:


This is exactly what we planned to do and what we were doing, and we got banned without even seeing reply to this (far from vague/ambiguous) email. If you still think that quoted part is obtuse and/or ambiguous, i really can't help.

I think you would look a way better if you just said Hydra/OB are banned @ 2nd may, instead of doing what you did.

You replied to the conspiracy part of my post, thanks. however, it's not something i want to discuss because it is my personal opinion.

The other part: you say, petition message was ambiguous and we didn't follow reply closely. It may be true, okay. You say, email is the same as petition, but in other words, okay.

If it's similar and ambiguous, i want you to point at the statement of email which we didn't follow and broke. I'll even split them so you can mark them with "true" or "false":

1) Hydra and 0utbreak have been different groups on TQ for the past year
2) will have different people leading the teams this year
3) We do not intend to work together or colaborate in any way in the tournament matches starting on June 30th
4) We only intend to test together in the preparation through the medium of testing on SiSi.

And the final question "Assuming that there's no collaboration between our alliances in any way in the actual tournament, apart from testing, are we classed in the A/B team criteria?" is not a statement, it just a summary with the request for your opinion, so i'm not including it.

I don't want you to write blabbing post, just statement numbers and "true" and "false", with the reasoning behind "false" if possible.

The fact is you personally didn't want to give us prizes, but other people decided otherwise. But now you reached your goal.
So there is no "we" as CCP - it's your personal vendetta and not answering the emails fits perfectly in it.

Of course we did that because you framed us
And now we're caught with a gun over a dead body, nice job.

Despite the fact that they were asking whether or not working together on SiSi was breaking the rules? They were asking for clarification. They stated multiple times that they didn't want to break the rules. You guys just ignored them. Finally they got a petition response from a supposedly qualified source, that said it was okay to share fits and train together. Then when they did so, you ban them.

You don't see how this is a problem? Seriously?

"its a trap!"

he wanted an excuse to ban them, they delivered, trusting the call of some "random gm"... i read the word "conspiracy" here a few times now, its not a conspiracy by all means, since its pretty obvious...

Then tell us what did happen, exactly what happened

Mr Sreegs wants to say, that Outbreak./Hydra guys were only asking about training together, and they got permission only for that, but they went far and merged into ONE corp, right?
But Mr Sreegs, do preffer BAN them without even warning, or answering any of their emails, he don't want to listen explanations that they were merged into one corp due to logistics effort.
Mr Sreegs is security guy in CCP, there is no better person in whole CCP Team to check if they were sharing accounts or were logging in from same IP address, or paying for game with same CC, or beeing same people IRL, right?
But still Mr Sreegs preffer BAN, and say they are same team.
Or maybe, Mr Sreegs when he was playing this game, was very bad at this game, got humiliated by Outbreak./Hydra guys, maybe they killed him one time to much and now hes taking revenge.

No offence, just trying to figure out why do so and not otherwise.

No, actually I can read stickies. In fact I have read all the stickies in this forum. Reading English is a trick I picked up at age 5. But thanks for your mildly insulting comment anyway.

So if it's not the fact that they were working together, then the reason they were banned is simply because the were all in one corp in one wormhole? That's it?

I like Sreegs as a bot/rmt ban hammer... not as anything to do with atx... he is doing a horrible job so far talking to the community... he is talking down to people... being like Hilmar before if was put in his place...

My old ceo was always good at telling me when to shut up when I was hurting my corps public image, and potentially causing a pr issue... maybe your ceo should do the same... also, stick to what you are good at and don't do alliance tourny next year

It is called entrapment. Asking the authority if it is ok to do something, having the authority say yes, and then getting punished for doing it is a textbook definition of entrapment. It would be like pre GCC changes asking a GM if you could use a tornado to warp around grid and pop multiple people, being told yes, and then being banned for exploits.

So, why is CCP allowing this thread to go off topic about teams spying in wormholes on each other? All bad posters should have their posts removed immediately.

Sreegs, in all honestly we can't stop you from acting this way.

But I want to address you on one point. From everything that has been shown and talked about, you simply MUST admit that there is a double standard here.

The communication you were able to give to RedVsBlue, but not Hydra or Outbreak just makes no sense to me.

I am obviously biased, and even discounting anything relating to the GM mail, how is it acceptable that no one replied to the multiple emails we sent to the alliance tournament team, regardless of how you feel they were vague or not. If they were vague, you should reply asking for clarification, that's how communication works. Not with "Oh, its those guys, screw them", just because you have a bone to pick and in your mind we have to be walking on thin ice.

Now I can't know for sure if this is just a result of a personal vendetta of yours, but from all your posts its sure as hell looking like it.